Traditions of the RCC.

Originally posted by The Disciple… ↑

This is pure deflection and historical revisionism at its finest. You claim Protestantism only exists to "demonize" the RCC, yet history itself condemns the RCC for its endless corruption, false teachings, and blatant modifications of YHWH’s commandments.

The fact that you keep running to the Vatican archives instead of the Word of YHWH is all the proof needed to show where your true allegiance lies—with Rome, not with Yeshua.
Let’s be clear:

Sabbath-keepers existed long before Protestantism. History records faithful believers who refused to conform to Rome’s changes. Even during the Dark Ages, small groups of believers kept the true Sabbath, despite severe persecution from the RCC.

The Bible alone—not your councils, popes, or archives—determines truth. YHWH preserved His Word long before the Vatican hoarded and distorted history to fit its agenda.

You love to talk about "pride" and "ego" when someone challenges RCC lies. Yet you place your trust in fallible men, councils, and a system that has led millions into deception.

As for your Council of Trent, Session 6, Canon 16

You claim I took it "out of context," but the plain wording condemns those who believe in the assurance of salvation. This directly contradicts YHWH’s Word:

1 John 5:13 (NKJV) – "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God."

John 10:28-29 (NKJV) – "And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand."

So, who am I going to believe? YHWH’s Word or a corrupt church that admits it changed His law?

I’ll stand with YHWH and His Word. You, on the other hand, continue to defend a system that openly contradicts Scripture while crying "out of context" every time you’re exposed.

Just go back to the start of this thread and address one of the 29 points I raised—from Scripture. You never do. You can’t. You run to your blasphemous RCC because Scripture condemns the very traditions you uphold.

At this point, you've endlessly exposed yourself as someone who barely understands Scripture because you constantly revert to the RCC as some kind of authority—even over Yeshua’s own words. That alone is deeply concerning.

As for your ongoing condescending remarks—telling me that I need to "open my eyes," that I’m lost, that I’m egotistical, etc.—this is nothing but retaliation from someone who knows they have nothing. It’s a classic deflection tactic—when you can’t provide a biblical response, you resort to personal attacks.

It doesn’t work on me. All it does is confirm exactly where your heart is and the type of person you are.

for the record this comment is very low IQ for you, you must be emotional to say such:
"You hate SDA yet what you parrot is primary coming from this movement, you indirectly are calling yourself a hipocrate sorry to say"

I don’t hate anyone—that is the genuine truth. I know Catholics, Baptists, SDA’s, and many others, and I have no hatred toward them. I simply don’t agree with their foundational doctrines and theologies, and that is my right. Hate is a strong word, and I am far from a hater. The fact that you accuse me of it only proves that you don’t comprehend anything I’ve said.

Your latest attack calling me a hypocrite because some of my beliefs align with the SDA’s is just desperate. For the record, some of my beliefs also align with Messianic Jews, Seventh-day Baptists, and other groups. In fact, there’s some level of truth in nearly every denomination. Think about it—stop being so petty and attacking. How does the fact that I uphold the true Sabbath according to YHWH’s instruction suddenly make me a “hypocrite” just because the SDA’s also keep it? That is a completely illogical argument.

Did you even understand my posts? I’ve said endlessly that any denomination can have a variety of clear truths, and that’s how they draw people in. But the problem is that most churches get stuck in their theology, never moving forward, never gaining further wisdom. This makes them Laodicean—lukewarm. The SDA’s have far more biblical truths than the RCC—by far—which explains why you attack them so aggressively. But for the record, most Protestant churches rebuke the RCC, not just the SDA’s. And with good reason. Stop pretending that it’s just one group calling out the RCC’s corruption and false doctrines—plenty do.

Just to help you get over the SDAs bring singled out, you best get onto these guys to:

Here is a list of well-known Christian denominations and groups that actively speak against the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) and expose its doctrines as unbiblical:

Jehovah’s Witnesses (JW) – Rejects RCC teachings, calls it part of "Babylon the Great," and condemns its hierarchy and pagan influences.

Baptist Churches (Certain Independent & Fundamentalist Baptists) – Criticize RCC traditions, papal authority, and emphasize "Sola Scriptura."

Pentecostal & Charismatic Churches (Certain Groups) – Some expose RCC idolatry, Mary worship, and false doctrines like purgatory.

Reformed Churches (Calvinists, Some Presbyterians, etc.) – Historically opposed to the RCC since the Reformation and reject papal authority.

Lutheran Church (Certain Conservative Branches) – Martin Luther led the break from the RCC; some Lutherans still expose its false teachings.

Evangelical Churches (Various Non-Denominational Groups) – Preach against RCC corruption, false gospel, and traditions of men.

The Church of God (Seventh Day) & Similar Sabbatarian Groups – Reject RCC changes to the Sabbath and promote biblical teachings.

Hebrew Roots & Messianic Christian Movements – Expose RCC’s pagan traditions like Christmas and Easter and call for a return to biblical commandments.

These groups actively challenge RCC doctrines and promote biblical truth over man-made traditions.

Be better, man. Stick to Scripture. No one cares about your RCC. True Christians care about what YHWH says and what Yeshua teaches.
Yeshua is the way to the Father—not the RCC, not any denomination. John 14:6 (NKJV) – “Yeshua said to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.’”
You keep running to man-made institutions, but salvation is through Yeshua alone—not councils, not traditions, not popes. Acts 4:12 (NKJV) – “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
So stop avoiding Scripture and start standing on the Word of YHWH—not the doctrines of men.

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This is pure deflection and historical revisionism at its finest. You claim Protestantism only exists to "demonize" the RCC,

Come on mate, you’re supposed to be a follower of Christ and lone to tell fibs, show where I ever said that “Protestantism only exists to "demonize" the RCC,’ not a good way to start your post, these words have never ever came out of my mouth or writing, this is something that your mentally imagined in your head

yet history itself condemns the RCC for its endless corruption, false teachings, and blatant modifications of YHWH’s commandments.

Rubbish that’s a matter of opinion, your opinion and those who have an axe to grind, I’ll give you a hint both used to be at war with each other

The fact that you keep running to the Vatican archives instead of the Word of YHWH is all the proof needed to show where your true allegiance lies—with Rome, not with Yeshua.

That fact is anyone can quote and twist scripture to suit, your claim in running to scripture only has no merit as you see on here all posters have quoted Scripture to justify their position
Oh, I see all that you know and quote on here have been derived sole from you, no nothing of influence from outside sources, especial from shakers and movers of the past like Luther, “sola Scriptura” or any of holders of the sabbath. My fried, you are a very tricky person to say the least and not being honest on what you write

Sabbath-keepers existed long before Protestantism. History records faithful believers who refused to conform to Rome’s changes. Even during the Dark Ages, small groups of believers kept the true Sabbath, despite severe persecution from the RCC.
Words are cheap as the majority in during the Dark Ages and the observance of the Sabbath (Saturday) was predominantly associated with Jewish communities, are you Jewish

The Bible alone—not your councils, popes, or archives—determines truth. YHWH preserved His Word long before the Vatican hoarded and distorted history to fit its agenda.
Oh I see, as you never ever go to any sources outside yourself and the bible, you don’t adhere to any outside sources just like you mentioned above to justify your stance, mate, buddy, then stop quoting others.

Like I told you many times anyone can quote and twist scripture, for you case to stick, you have to demonstrate that the original authors of verses wrote it exactly in the right context that you are applying it too and that my friend you have to get into their heads and mind to which you cannot do
We are living in the times of the Spirit which is guiding the church throughout time and history
And you are telling me all that adhere to your version of reality where completely honest and did not distort history to fit its agenda, just like you’re doing right now, do you honestly expect anyone in their right mind to believe this and you and where your coming from.

Like it or not, we get the facts from what is written from the past in many forms, and they do not line up with your agenda,

You love to talk about "pride" and "ego" when someone challenges RCC lies. Yet you place your trust in fallible men, councils, and a system that has led millions into deception.
Oh I see. And who do you place your trust in, you place your trust in yourself, do you as you never quote others, and you yourself is special as you are not Someone, a man, and definitely you are infallible not like others who are fallible, you are your own Pope, you are the one who decides what is wrong and what is right, you don’t trust men but you trust man which is yourself, as there is no deception in you, as all you know has been given to you from above, you don’t go into sites and post paint shops or long list of the wrong doing of the CC and others, please spare me, if you don’t realise this basics facts how the heck can you understand scripture
You see where you fail

You claim I took it "out of context," but the plain wording condemns those who believe in the assurance of salvation. This directly contradicts YHWH’s Word:

That’s a matter of theological understanding and there are many out there
My dear friend. You need to realise first, which I’ll repeat, anyone can quote scripture to suit, I can also do that but will not for the reasons I gave you before, and I also have deep respect for scripture and will not use them for bickering

So, who am I going to believe? YHWH’s Word or a corrupt church that admits it changed His law?
Let me give you a few pointers to this of how you operate and see things including the bible and what you post on here

“Bible Alone” is nothing but code word in order to justify ourselves in creating God in our own image

We aren't robots or machines. but human beings — human beings (like all human beings) who have a predetermined belief system, a values approach, a worldview.

Whatever we believe will be the "spirit" out of which we write.

If we start unknowingly from a faulty foundation, we will not see anything different

Self-deception is the norm in human life and in general the most difficult obstacle for those wish to grow truly, regardless of which path they take

People often perform mental gymnastics in order to blame anyone but themselves

The reality is we live in a world of perception nothing more, nothing less as our sense’s dictates, what seems to be truth to us, might not be seen as truth to others and vise versa.

We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are. - Anais Nin

Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.- Obi-Wan Kenobi

What we see depends mainly on what we look for.

It is one of the commonest of mistakes to consider that the limit of our power of perception is also the limit of all there is to perceive.- C.W. Leadbeater

You will always define events in a manner which will validate your agreement with reality.- Steve Maraboli

Each of us tends to think we see things as they are, that we are objective. But this is not the case. We see the world, not as it is, but as we are - or, as we are conditioned to see it. -Stephen Covey

The rest of your post is made up of straws just like to what I have responded too

You need to get back to basics of common sense and understanding, sorry your post seems to be very fluffy at best the say the least