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  1. Snooker

    5,748 Posts.

    Why is it that you always introduce all the Palestinian crap into any discussion that goes on here in regard to the real Muslim agenda, world wide, but more specifically Australia.

    There is no doubt that you have a hangup of sorts, but it doesn't matter. We can see through it. You make out that you are Australian, an athiest, a general knowall, but somehow when one reads between the lines, you have this giant hangup about Jews, but you you go through a pretence of being "fair" and though you think you bring an agument into perspective, you actually come across as an Arab apologist, or worse still a Muslim apologist.

    You try to distract us from the discussions on hand which leads me to believe that you have a Muslim background, are incapable of coming out of the closet and sayng so, hence you introduce irrelevent crap about the goings on in Israel, always trying to portray the Israelis as the villains and the poor Palestinian Muslims as the innocent, hard done by bunch of innocents.

    So for your benefit, a short history lesson, which though I think is a waste of time and will never pentrate your anti-Semitic brain, against my better judgement, I will try to give you another opportunity to grasp the reality of the situation and maybe, just maybe it might sink in that the Palestinians got themselves into this s*h*i*t and can thank Arafat and his Muslim thugs for the life of misery that they have had to endure for so long, and most probably will endure for much longer.

    Now dummy, read on and let's hope something sinks in to that anti-Jew, anti-Israel leftist brain of yours.

    David G. Littman
    National Review Online, October 7, 2002

    It's time to look back on 14 fundamental geographical, historical, and diplomatic facts from the last century relating to the Middle East. These basic facts and figures were stressed in recent statements to the U.N. Commission on Human Rights and its subcommission, to the surprise of representatives of both states and non-governmental organizations (NGOs).

    1) After World War I Great Britain accepted the 1922 Mandate for Palestine, and then--with League of Nations approval--used its article 25 to create two distinct entities within the Mandate-designated area.

    2) The territory lying between the Jordan River and the eastern desert boundary "of that part of Palestine which was known as Trans-Jordan" (nearly 78%) thus became the Emirate of Transjordan. This new entity was put under the rule of Emir Abdullah, the eldest son of the Sharif of Mecca, as a recompense for his support in the war against the Turks, and of Ibn Saud's seizure of Arabia…

    3) …No Jews could reside or buy land in the newly created Emirate. This policy was ratified…by Jordan's law no. 6, sect. 3, on April 3, 1954, and reactivated in law no. 7, sect. 2, on April 1, 1963. [Any] person may become a citizen of Jordan unless he is a Jew… Judenrein legislation remains valid today.

    4) The remaining area west of the Jordan River (comprising about 22% of the original Mandate) was then officially designated "Palestine" by Great Britain. As stated in the 1937 Royal Commission Report, "the primary purpose of the Mandate, as expressed in its preamble and its articles, is to promote the establishment of the Jewish National Home." This was now greatly restricted.

    5) U.N. General Assembly Resolution 181 (November 29, 1947) authorized a Partition Plan…for an Arab and a Jewish state--and for a corpus separatum for Jerusalem…Aided and abetted by the neighboring Arab countries, local armed Arab Palestinian forces immediately began attacking Jews, who counterattacked. On May 15, 1948, the armies of five Arab League states…failed in their goal of eradicating the fledgling state.

    6) The armistice boundaries (1949-1967) left Israel with roughly 16.5%…of the original 1922 Mandate area…while about 5%--less Gaza, which was occupied by the Egyptians--was conquered and occupied in 1948 by British General Glubb Pasha… The historic regions of "Judea and Samaria"--their official names as indicated on all British mandate maps until 1948--were annexed and became the "West Bank" of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in 1950. All the Jews were expelled from the area and from the Old City of Jerusalem; their synagogues, and even tombstones on the Mount of Olives, were destroyed.

    7) Until King Hussein attacked Israel on June 6, 1967, Jordan's recognized de facto boundaries covered 83% of Palestine… [Following] the Six Day War, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan lost the "West Bank"…retaining the huge "Transjordan" portion (78%) of the original League of Nations territory.

    8) Of Jordan's current population of 5 million, about two-thirds…consider themselves "Arab Palestinians."… Nearly 2 million Jordanian Bedouin citizens and others do not identify…as Palestinians.

    9) After the 1967 disaster, an Arab League Summit Conference…reacted negatively to U.N. Security Council Resolution 247: "No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel, no concessions on the questions of Palestinian national rights." This was also the determined position of the PLO. Apart from Egypt's 1981 peace treaty with Israel, there was little change, for the next two decades….

    10) In those "West Bank and Gaza" areas, designated by the Oslo Accords of 1994 to be placed under the administration of the Palestinian Authority…there is now a population of over 3,200,000, of whom about 35,000 are Christians, but none are Jews.

    11) The population of the Jewish state--a state envisaged in the 1922 League of Nations Mandate, and confirmed by the U.N.'s 1947 decision--is now roughly 6,500,000, of whom roughly 20% are Arabs (120,000 Christians), Druze, and Bedouin citizens of Israel. Of the more than 5 million Jewish citizens, about one-half are those Jewish refugees from Arab countries, and their descendants, who fled or left their ancient homeland when massacres, arrests, and ostracism made life impossible…

    12) Today, a tiny, vulnerable Jewish remnant--scarcely 5,000 persons--remains in all the Arab world, less than half of 1% from the near million who were there in 1948…

    13) The 22 Arab League countries cover a global surface of over 6 million square miles, over 10% of the land surface on earth. Israel, by contrast, covers barely 8,000 sq. miles.

    14) Security Council Resolution 242 has now become the panacea for Arab states, yet their interpretation of its key operative paragraph does not correspond to the [binding] English original… In March 2002, a Saudi "peace plan" was approved by the Arab League…that would leave Israel with impossible borders. [What] is needed for the "Middle East peace process" is a concerted effort to support the Mitchell plan… But the Palestinian Authority will only become a genuine partner… if…a new spirit of mutual acceptance prevails between the Arab world and Israel… This will only be feasible if democratic institutions and a respect for human rights and the rule of law become the norm…And it will only be feasible if the Arab world recognizes the inalienable legitimacy of Israel's existence in a part of its historical land.

    (David G. Littman is active on human-rights issues at theU.N. Commission on Human Rights. His statements were madeas a representative of the World Union for Progressive Judaism.)

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