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Originally posted by agentm
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amazing they publish that rubbish without proof of anything.. the US have not got any losses on the plane
So why do australian families have to be subjected to the propaganda they put up without proof..
i am australian with dutch background, i am pretty interested in how we fight with the US in warzones yet they, as well as the australian media distribute rubbish and blame putin for this.. ok.. ifs he's guilty, then present the proof you say they have imho
OK... so we have had day upon day of blame, and plenty of time to put up some evidence,
russia shows a SU-25 flying within 5 km of MH 17 when it went down, and flying at the same altitude..
i have been hearing for days that the USA have conclusive proof, thats what obama says, that the rebels did it... but nothing has been presented???? is the USA being disingenuous here? or did they really see a BUK system fire at the MAS 17 and not realise it was a Ukranian government but assume the worst and think it was a BUK system held by the rebels?is that why they wont release their evidence? does it demonstrate the russians may be right??
i support the russian approach. i recall days ago they had said they had record of a BUK system going live in the region... .. and they presented the evidence, and have asked the Ukranians to "please explain" to the world
the Ukraine have lied about the missile system and lied to the world about the fighter being in the vicinity. they have confiscated the tapes and recordings from the air traffic controllers during the incident and wont release them.. why??
so what next? do we ignore this evidence and ignore the facts presented and believe the tales told by the USA without facts or do we also ask the Ukrainian government to answer some pretty compelling questions???
imho the media are doing nothing to discover the truth, just publishing speculation, they really have yet to present any proof of what they are publishing and i have yet to see anything presented by the US to counter the russian evidence they presented yesterday..
sorta tired of the US propaganda, imho putins defence team are on the ball and asking the right questions..
the Ukrainians had multiple BUK systems all around the rebels.. and have denied they have it to the media.. why?????????? the rebels have no airforce nor any planes.
the Ukrainians had a SU - 25 right next to MAS 17.. and deny it... why???
the USA have claimed to have evidence of the rebels having a fully operational BUK system and having used it, but present no proof.. why????
imho its time for the aussie media to show some balls and stop publishing rubbish and start asking the question of those who make all the claims but fail to deliver with the proof... imho some australian families deserve better and deserve to know..
put up or shut up imho!!
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Agentm
Agreed, especially with this bit
"imho its time for the aussie media to show some balls and stop publishing rubbish and start asking the question of those who make all the claims but fail to deliver with the proof... imho some australian families deserve better and deserve to know.."
And the questions keep coming. Here are another 10.
http://rt.com/news/174496-malaysia-crash-russia-questions/